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		<title>By: Finn Myrstad &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will Norway join the EU after Iceland?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finn Myrstad &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will Norway join the EU after Iceland?</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] at best, questionable. But Iceland cannot alone trigger an application debate in Norway, for that read my previous analysis of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Labour party trumps the services directive through &#187; Finn Myrstad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Labour party trumps the services directive through &#187; Finn Myrstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] party Høyre. That is if they together have a majority of the seats in the parliament. With the wind of change in Icelandic politics towards a much more positive attitude of the prospect of membership in the EU, Norway [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] party Høyre. That is if they together have a majority of the seats in the parliament. With the wind of change in Icelandic politics towards a much more positive attitude of the prospect of membership in the EU, Norway [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Finn Myrstad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finn Myrstad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lars for a very insight full response. I agree with your analysis, pointing towards the domestic political factors that also play an important role. A Labour government promoting the application is a crucial part of the equation. I also agree with your point on Russia. 

I could also add that an Icelandic application needs a change in their constitution that could only be allowed if current parliament suggest it and the next one passes it. In other words, elections are needed. 

In sum, there are a lot of factors that will play a role, and it will probably take some time. My most optimistic estimate for a Norwegian application is 2010/11, you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lars for a very insight full response. I agree with your analysis, pointing towards the domestic political factors that also play an important role. A Labour government promoting the application is a crucial part of the equation. I also agree with your point on Russia. </p>
<p>I could also add that an Icelandic application needs a change in their constitution that could only be allowed if current parliament suggest it and the next one passes it. In other words, elections are needed. </p>
<p>In sum, there are a lot of factors that will play a role, and it will probably take some time. My most optimistic estimate for a Norwegian application is 2010/11, you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Finn, 

I think you have several valid points, but we need to seperate the weat from the Clinton (haha). Often people focus too much on the arguments; ie a changed reality leads to a change in public opinion. I believe that a more lively  public debate can only be triggered by new participants. To actually get the people to listen and take part, we need more participants than the yes- and no-organisations. So, what can lead to a strong enough feeling of urgency in the minds of policy- and opinion-makers so that they will rase the debate? 

I think you raise the most important three reasons, but on Russia I believe there has to be a clear and visible conflict of interest, not only a frozen one as now. We need to see a manifestation of Russian power with Norway as the victim (seaborders, Svalbard, Shtokmann etc).

The question then becomes, are the external events important enough in the minds of opinion- and policy-makers to trumph internal considerations, eg forming of governments? This, I believe, is in a historical perspective a new dynamic which mediates external triggers. As you need a government to initiate the application, I believe the only option is a strong minority labour government, triggered by a combination of the above three; a sharper Norwegian-Russian resource conflict, appreciation of the Krone towards Euro threatening jobs in the export sector and a Icelandic application. All four factors are not unlikely, but it will probably take a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Finn, </p>
<p>I think you have several valid points, but we need to seperate the weat from the Clinton (haha). Often people focus too much on the arguments; ie a changed reality leads to a change in public opinion. I believe that a more lively  public debate can only be triggered by new participants. To actually get the people to listen and take part, we need more participants than the yes- and no-organisations. So, what can lead to a strong enough feeling of urgency in the minds of policy- and opinion-makers so that they will rase the debate? </p>
<p>I think you raise the most important three reasons, but on Russia I believe there has to be a clear and visible conflict of interest, not only a frozen one as now. We need to see a manifestation of Russian power with Norway as the victim (seaborders, Svalbard, Shtokmann etc).</p>
<p>The question then becomes, are the external events important enough in the minds of opinion- and policy-makers to trumph internal considerations, eg forming of governments? This, I believe, is in a historical perspective a new dynamic which mediates external triggers. As you need a government to initiate the application, I believe the only option is a strong minority labour government, triggered by a combination of the above three; a sharper Norwegian-Russian resource conflict, appreciation of the Krone towards Euro threatening jobs in the export sector and a Icelandic application. All four factors are not unlikely, but it will probably take a while.</p>
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